{"path":"research/catching-a-proposal-made-unnecessary/cases/AU8.md","content":"*Spoken name: success measured by the holders.* *About: That the mind-meld succeeds when each holder accepts the rendering of their own position, not when anyone changes their mind.* **The mind-meld succeeds when each holder accepts the rendering of their own position and the other judges it one that side would recognise (the ideological Turing test); whether anyone changed their mind is not the measure.** **Meets:** depends on AU3. Reverses nothing settled. **Outside reader:** extends AL7 (\"whether anyone changed their mind is not the measure\" against \"Deliberus welcomes the agreement that clarity earns and never optimizes for agreement\"); extends I1 (\"whether anyone changed their mind is not the measure\" against \"it only tracks attitude change presumably over a quite short amount of time\"); extends conviction:deliberus-maps-reasoning-it-does (\"whether anyone changed their mind is not the measure\" against \"Deliberus maps reasoning, it does not endorse conclusions\").\n"}